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Post  djpimley on Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:52 pm

The Mac App Store, dawning of a new empire. But some people want to go straight to the Vomitorium. Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Mac App Store

Post  DonaemouS on Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:32 pm

Lets hope this will not be the new start to the end of the Macintosh...

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Post  Valentin K on Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:02 pm

Furthermore, Apple will make the installation of applications they don't like about as difficult as with the iOS devices, I can see it coming.... Mad
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Post  Kenners on Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:30 pm

Valentin K wrote:Furthermore, Apple will make the installation of applications they don't like about as difficult as with the iOS devices, I can see it coming.... Mad
The day I have to jailbreak my mac to install an app is the day I tell apple to F*CK OFF.

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Post  djpimley on Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:05 pm

The basic idea of simplifying app installation is good. It's bread and butter to people like us, but trying to explain the process of "click link > download dmg > mount disk image > drag application to HD / run pkg installer > drag to dock if you want it there" to my parents makes me appreciate that what should be the simplest of things - install stuff on my Mac - is actually conceptually very difficult to understand.

What I'm not so happy about is that the App Store is full of shite. I am the proud user of a lot of incredibly useful shareware and freeware produced to the highest standards, really great apps that impress me every day with such quality. I think there is tons of great software available for the mac - but sadly almost none of it is to be found on the Mac App Store, which many people will now treat as the final word in Mac software. Mad
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Post  DonaemouS on Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:24 am

djpimley wrote:but sadly almost none of it is to be found on the Mac App Store, which many people will now treat as the final word in Mac software. Mad
sure, and I hope will be for the next years coming and coming. A great application could need hours of our time to be developed, and 0/19 Euros at year to be sold online. Why I need to let Apple to earn on my work just cause they "give me the platform". lol?

The Mac or App store is just the new showroom of no ideas coming from Apple. They just copying around, adding their Nazism policy, and earn on your work freely.

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Post  20FingerS on Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:38 pm

In the "All video Apps" I can not find Final Cut Pro...ok, it's for professionals who won't go there to buy it...
BUT, I couldn't find even MPEG Streamclip, which is extremely helpful, or Quicktime 7...it's full of crap...
Apparently Steve Jobs is seriously ill, maybe some headless chicken are taking control...I am so scared, I don't want to go back to microsoft,
I love Final Cut and I love the hardware. Sad

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Re: Mac App Store

Post  Mackilroy on Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:41 pm

Those apps break the rules of the Mac App Store – that's why they're not on there. Besides, it's been open only a few weeks. I'm betting that the store's rules will change over time, and that we'll also see a lot more very cool applications show up on it. And there's always traditional websites such as MacUpdate to find other programs.

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Post  DonaemouS on Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:44 pm

Mackilroy wrote:Those apps break the rules of the Mac App Store – that's why they're not on there.
Indeed, this is why we are in the decline path of Apple. This company is starting to decide what we can have or play with, and if we want to produce software for Mac, we must give money to them also!!! Shocked

IS CRAZY!!! I hope small companies will move to platforms like steam...

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Post  djpimley on Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:47 pm

20FingerS wrote:In the "All video Apps" I can not find Final Cut Pro...ok, it's for professionals who won't go there to buy it...
You won't find it there because software that requires a .pkg installer or to install external components cannot be distributed through the App Store. Regarding Final Cut Studio, there is an update being worked on and many rumours about what will happen to it - some people think the update will not be impressive and FCP will slowly lose ground to competitors, others think FCP will be "dumbed down" into a consumer app; we will have to wait and see.

I have not used it, but I read online that the latest version of Adobe Premiere is actually very good, and it seems that many FCP users are keeping one eye on Premiere, just in case Apple wreck FCP in the next version.
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Post  20FingerS on Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:04 pm

I knew I was ignorant about lot of things of this new feature that appeared on my dock without me to ask for anything...like this set of rules...bah.
I understand the pkg thing, it makes sense. So that is the place for easy things, click and go.
I wish Apple and Macintosh would develop a new department for serious things for professionals, without any iApplications at all. Question
I feel so old school now...
Adobe Premiere makes me sick just for its name...I'll rather be the last FinalCut editor on the planet...my fault I know...I will be like the Avid editor nowadays afro
but hey, "they" still edit the best stuff out there, aren't they: film, documentaries...I saw a lot of BIG post in London which have still Avid...

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Post  djpimley on Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:17 pm

20FingerS wrote:Adobe Premiere makes me sick just for its name... I saw a lot of BIG post in London which have still Avid...
You know Final Cut was originally developed by a bunch of guys from the Premiere dev team?

Yeah, a lot of editors are not technical people at all - they learned to use Avid but have no idea how a computer works. The interface has not really changed all that much in 20 years so any version is very familiar to an Avid editor. Also the project file support has the kind of insane backwards-compatiblity that Apple hate - it's possible to open any project file in almost any version of the software.
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Post  Tuktuk on Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:30 pm

DonaemouS wrote:
Mackilroy wrote:Those apps break the rules of the Mac App Store – that's why they're not on there.
Indeed, this is why we are in the decline path of Apple. This company is starting to decide what we can have or play with, and if we want to produce software for Mac, we must give money to them also!!! Shocked

IS CRAZY!!! I hope small companies will move to platforms like steam...

You have to give money but you get placed in a big showcase. This can be an advantage also. However, small and/or not placed companies could have disadvantages by getting ignored.

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Post  DonaemouS on Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:33 pm

djpimley wrote:Yeah, a lot of editors are not technical people at all - they learned to use Avid but have no idea how a computer works.
And here where I enter in the scene!!! Rolling Eyes

ok, ok... I'm promoting myself...





but!



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Post  20FingerS on Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:35 pm

oh, uh, nice!

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Post  NoNameBrand on Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:35 pm

My PS scratch 'disk' does 300 MB/s according to AJA.

I think Final Cut Express is a sure thing for the App store when it's updated. Aperture is there now (with a price cut). Aperture is heavily marketed now as a step-up from iPhoto, but it's still a 'pro' product in its capabilities and interface. People whined a lot when v3 added 'faces' and 'places' from iPhoto, but I think they're great additions.


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