GT4 - Redline Specifications

maybe if we disable the left cylinder bank? It would still be a 4.0l 225 hp inline 5.... with 400 Nm.... ok, bad idea....

Tomte wrote:

Aleksi wrote:Is there any built-in cars that would fit into class with some modifications? I don't have any modeling skills (yet)

I'd say the Audi TT could fit, maybe with a tuned VR6 engine (no turbo/supercharging, just classic tuning like the BMW Z4 M). Which leads to the question if we allow AWD. I would be against it, as in GT3 (where the Gallardo and the Audi R8 had to be converted into RWD only).
Apart from that, a performance limited Viper might be in order as well, but it would need to be severely resticted, similar to the GT4 Corvette C6 (which runs with 390 hp in this series).

Audi TT? Is that all? I'd like to see some older machinery as well, Charger, Mustang, Vette or even Pickup truck. And Maserati 3200 GT would be also good.

Aleksi wrote:Charger, Mustang, Vette or even Pickup truck. And Maserati 3200 GT

I just ate some crushed glass and stuck a hot butter knife in my eye socket... but it wasn't as painful as reading this sentence.

In search of a somewhat realistic performance envelope, I revised the GT4 Redline Specifications slightly.
Same as with GT3 (even if not all of us cared), please add 100 kg for fuel and driver to the weight you find on the Fia GT4 pages. I presume that the stated homologation weight refers to car+all fluids except fuel.

Thanks.

Good Morning,

I added the Redline GT4 specs to Wikispaces (link) for better visibility.
We can continue to discuss the development of cars here or at ASW.
The specs are still open for discussion, the balancing will be hell compared to TCC because there are many more factors involved now, so bring it on!

New Test Pack released.
The pack includes the
GT4 BMW Z3 M Coupe
GT4 BMW Z4 M Coupe
GT4 Cadillac XLR
GT4 Porsche 968

The zip file contains 4 standalone redplugs (i.e. the original redplugs of the base cars are not needed anymore). The names of the redplugs are indiviual for easy update later on.
I'd like to see some MP action and have some comparison feedback here. Leo, could you make the Test Pack available on LOL?

GT4 Test Pack 1

Everybody who downloaded the earlier test packs, please delete the following folder in your plug-in directory:
Porsche_968_GT4

yummy yummy and done

Please download the plugin here

Looking good! Gotta test it later.

Thx Tomte - C14 did a pretty good job with this model

To make it short : yesterday we had several races on different tracks (often full house). The overall feeling seemed to be that the cars already have close performances in race. The best laps were often similar and the fights were really tight. We still have to get used to the new vehicles, but that should give us a good car class to have fun with.

PeSt had an issue with the gearbox of a bmw (I dont remember which one - I'm sure he will do), while Lippa was ok with it - both on keyboard - strange.

I just noticed that you use the 968 shadow model. Do you want to have the wings file do modify it a bit? Atm, your redplug is dependant on the 968 and the Gallardo plug.

I noticed that the driver is quite committed to his car, he even has a rollcage going through his body. And he sits on the passenger seat, which isn't there.

Hehehe, I've asked c14 for a proper shadow model - but thanks anyway.
I borrowed it because I hate cars without shadows. I should have asked before, but sometimes I'm baaad … Sorry.

I'll make changes on the driver (I did not check the result - thanks for spotting this) and the steering wheel (baaad again ) next week-end.

no more problem here with the Z4. don't know what happend.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm a little bit astonished that the cars appear to be close.
The Z4 will probably be the easiest of the bunch, it's a well sorted chassis to begin with (thanks Andreu!!!). It doesn't understeer too much and is generally well tempered.
The 968 is again a tricky issue, it was born as a test car before I had access to the rest of the pack. I'm not sure if I will include it in the final pack, as this is really getting the last drop of blood out of that ageing car. I can't say if it is any good or just a boring, predictable ride.
The Caddy is exactly that, a little fat lady. I hope she's competitive enough.
Now, the Z3 M Coupe is a different matter. The lightest of them all, only 5 gears, twitchy... and what do you get in return? I can't answer this question for the moment, I haven't found out yet.
As for the 350Z... it's time I get my ass into that car.

Tomte wrote:As for the 350Z... it's time I get my ass into that car.

lots of power and lots of fun ... yet the over-steer is a bit extreme in my opinion

keep up the good work ... i smell a new tourney in the near future

Ok, it hasn't the quality of DJ's epic Redline clips, but I thought I share some of the fun I had today:

latest news... well, not much to report really.
The physics appear to be well sorted already, but further scrutiny is probably needed.

I redid the UV map of the Z3 M Coupe to be able to create some meaningful skins. Looking at my first car model I saw a lot of things I would do differently now,...

The Z4 M Coupe could also profit from a new UV map. The current one is a great combination of lights, windows and body panels, mirrored and so on. All in all very efficient stuff, but not very easy to create some racing skins without running into the Redline Golf mirror issue. Andreu? Would you, ahem, be willed to, well, create a new UV map for the body only? Pretty please? We could keep the current for windows and lights and maybe use a new material for the metal bits.

As for the XLR... we also need new skins here and maybe a little cleanup of the materials.

All in all I don't see that the GT4 class is far enough in the development process to warrant a tourney this year. Well, the 350Z is actually near ready, but I'm not...

C14ru5 wrote:Yes, I also find the 350Z pretty boring. That's why I really don't want to work on any GT4 car now. I'd much rather finish the RS200.

While I'm already posting pictures of possible GT4 cars:



A thomm-free Caterham, a VX220 Opel replacement, a Marcos Mantis Gillet replacement, and a Morgan Aero 8 Donkervoort replacement. The rear wings will have to go, of course.

I just read a few days ago that the Morgan 4-4 is now the oldest model of car in continuous production. Is this true?